Minutes and agendas
The Plymouth Cycling Campaign (PCyC) meetings are open to all
- Anyone who would like to get involved in our campaigns to improve cycling in Plymouth and to help raise the profile of sustainable transport is very welcome to attend these meetings. We need all the help we can get!
- Currently we are looking for someone to lead on the campaign to get a cycle path built along the A386 between Roborough and Yelverton. This has been on the back burner recently due to lack of people willing to try and move it forward, although plenty of people bring it up on our Facebook forum. It’s not a new idea and has been investigated by Devon County Council previously. If you’re interested we’d be happy to welcome you on board and brief you.
- Or just come along to find out what we’re up to – you’ll be very welcome whatever type of cyclist you are, or even if you don’t cycle but would like to! And any comments you may have will be welcome too.
Minutes of the meeting of Plymouth Cycling Campaign, 16.10.18
Room 417 Babbage Building, University Campus: Map
Present: Bill Nicholson, Jon Pitcher, Sue Jennings (chair), Hayley Harvey, Patrick James, Cllr Jeremy Goslin, Clare Smith, John Abraham, Graham Wilson, Simon Trevan, Jim Woffenden, Mike Kelly
Apologies: Stuart Mee, Cathy Griffin, Dave Gibbs, David Clark
Treasurer’s report and authentication of accounts – BN circulated a summary of the accounts for the past year which were authenticated by MK. Main income is from subscriptions and sales of T-shirts, main outgoing is the subscription / affiliation fee to Cycling UK. Current bank balance stands at £441.65
Membership report – currently 28 paid up members. A number of membership payments come through cash payments – BN restated that it is much easier if these are done electronically as standing orders.
Co-chair’s report – SJ thanked SM for doing so much for the Campaign Group in his capacity as Chair from the outset. A new ‘job description’ has been put together to reflect the changing role. The (co-)chair’s role principally involves chairing quarterly meetings, formulating policy and campaigns, and meeting with other committee members between open meetings to coordinate work. Some discussion followed about how to reshape the committee structure of the group.
GW and JA said that more weight comes from responses from PCyC as an official consultee rather than individuals but there needed to be clarity about how this collective response is formulated. SJ felt that at least two people should be looking at anything that goes out from PCyC. This had been discussed before – ACTION – MK to find what had been previously agreed.
JA said the sub-groups structure had to be looked at again and suggested that there should be a management committee that all info is circulated to. SJ suggested that JP joins DG on the maintenance goup.
Election of officers
Treasurer – BN proposed by JA and seconded by ST
Membership Secretary – BN proposed by HH and seconded by CS
Secretary – MK proposed by BN and seconded by GW
Co-chair – CS proposed by JA and seconded by ST
Co-chair – SJ proposed by MK and seconded by BN
Communications Officer – SM proposed by BN and seconded by GW
All nominees duly elected unanimously
Minutes of the last meeting – JA raised two corrections – Graham Cornish retired from DCC in March; no direct contact had been made with the Harbourmaster in relation to Hooe Lake Bridge but JA had had conversations with others
Feedback from PCC Cycling Commissioner –
- JG had been out for two rides with members of PCyC and various issues were noted. JG had been accompanied by Council Officers to look at the extension along the old railway and issues over signing have been raised with JW. The issue with the raised kerb will be addressed by the developer when final surface finish is applied.
- JG has also spoken to Cllr Vincent (ward councillor) re Efford Pathway – keen to have better signing to give greater prominence for this route. SJ also referred to issues remaining with the quality of the surface, drain covers etc.
- JG referred to other issues around the Marsh Mills area. He has talked to James Cleeton (Sustrans) about resurfacing of the sewage works path on Route 2 in Plympton. There is allocated funding for improvements here which include replacing the small bridge, new lighting as well as resurfacing with money coming from Highways England.
- Some discussion of options for Route 2 from Marsh Mills along the Embankment.
- Consultation is to begin soon on new cycling paths in the Southway cycling scheme. Ward councillors have been briefed and seem happy for shared use path proposals. Barbican to Laira Rail Bridge improvements are also out to consultation.
- JG is trying to get into local communities in central Plymouth to find out what would help people to cycle more there. Hills are clearly a problem, so keen to look at developing an electric bike hub. ST raised the issue of pavement parking affecting wheelchair users and pedestrians as well and felt this is something PCyC could work on in a wider focus working with local communities on making different transport choices.
- JG mentioned the PCC ‘walk to the moon’ challenge encouraging primary school pupils to get involved in a competition recording walks / scoots / rides to school. He emphasised that effecting change is about hearts and minds as well as new routes and infrastructure.
Report from JW (PCC) –
- PCC has consulted on a reduced speed limit (40 to 30 mph) on Tavistock Rd from north of Powisland Drive into the existing 30 mph zone. This will be reviewed in 12 months’ time – feedback welcomed.
- SJ raised the issue of traffic crossing the cycle lane to enter Windsor House – JW said that reduced speed limit helps to reduce conflict. GW referred to solutions used in Chester with new signage, raised platforms and give way markings for vehicles to address problems like this. JP asked about any issues at Gdynia Way / Hele’s Terrace. JW said accident stats could be found at http://www.crashmap.co.uk
- Transforming Cities Fund – Plymouth has been successful in the first phase. It is not definite but there is a good chance of getting access to some of the £840m funding. The initial bid was fairly broad and will be finalised for the next stage in the process.
- Draft Strategic Cycling Network document shows intention for a route linking to Sherford. Going east from Colesdown Hill is more challenging. GW referred to the Expressway plan using the hatched portion of the A379 and linking with the existing path at Brixton. Issues with parking on the road were flagged again.
- Cycle training, commuter tutor (adult cycle confidence support) with riders accompanied on their journey to work etc are available free from Plymotion
- Some discussion of 20 mph zones around schools – evidence shows that the wider the area covered the greater the benefit. Developing Home Zones etc shows you don’t necessarily need cycle paths when areas are made safer for cycling through
- Parking restrictions associated with Barbican to Laira Bridge scheme are going through statutory consultation stage at the moment
- JW looking into previously raised issues over NCN 2 along the Embankment and cycle contraflows around the city that had been suggested
- CS asked if the Barbican lock gate bridge was ever coming back into use. JW confirmed it would, but there was no clear timescale at the moment. JW was asked to inform us when any further update available.
Liaison between PCyC and PCC – ST proposed that this should be through email initially. ACTIO N – ST to email JG
Report from infrastructure Group –
- JA reported that comments had been made on consultations re King George V playing field (asked for 4m wide path rather than
3m ); Cattedown Wharf / Neptune Park (recognised as an improvement but noted difficult issues with articulated lorries, etc); Hooe Lake Bridge (further progress unlikely. Plymouth Local Access Forum have been looking at this for some time. There are a number of tricky issues – the height of the bridge and permitted gradients would require a very long ramp. It would need real support and involvement from the local community but local opinion is split. A better option may be to build a new bridge not using existing pilings closer to the Cattewater). SJ thanked JA for his persistence in exploring this issue.
- A386 – JA has written to a number of local councillors, MPs, DNPA, etc with suggestions for a fast commuter route. There is a clear need for it on a very busy road. Meeting with James Cleeton (Sustrans) led to advice about feasibility studies. Issues with land ownership. Valuable contacts made and support is evident. SJ pointed out that Andy Janes (Sustrans volunteer) had made contact with SWW. ACTION – JA to contact Andy.
- Millbay boulevard – consultation is open on this. The plans do not show a cycle path even though that had been anticipated. ACTION – JA to respond stating that we expected to see an integrated cycle route
Report on Sustrans links –
- GW reported that Ian Stewart has taken over from Rupert Crosbee as area manager. The local groups now have a full complement of volunteers for ranger duties with JP taking on volunteer coordinator role for Plymouth / Route 27 south group.
- South Dartmoor Towns Project – exciting opportunity for upgrade to NCN 2 from Plymouth to Ashburton. Feasibility study is in the offing for a 4m wide path which would be funded by Highways England.
- DCC have a plan for a new roundabout at Lee Mill linked to A38 off slip. GW would like to see a Dutch style roundabout. Local groups will be looking at this carefully.
- There is a 35% increase in traffic predicted for Ivybridge with a lot of new building taking place, much of it heading to Plymouth. GW has a meeting on Nov 2nd involving Gary Streeter MP, reps from Hannah’s, town and district councillors – want to make sure that extra traffic isn’t all cars. Also working on a street design project in Ivybridge.
- This year the local South Hams Sustrans group has run 15 guided rides with 3 more coming up.
- Devon and Cornwall has seen 400 led rides since April on the Let’s Ride website – https://www.letsride.co.uk/ More mixed rides are now appearing and 10 new ride leaders have been trained. There are also various rides targeted at particular users – bike and baby, Plymouth uni, rides for PCC staff at lunchtimes, Halloween family bike ride, etc.
- Giro di Plymouth – around 25-30 riders took part. Thanks to SM for setting this up and those who helped to marshal the ride and to HH for organising the welcome drinks at the end. The ride went well – nice feel and a mix of people. ACTION – MK to write up for Cycle Tales, anyone with photos to send them to SM
JG reported that cycling path in Central park from Ford Park cemetery has been widened as well as other improvements. Request that shared use signage goes in too.
GW distributed car stickers to promote the close pass campaign
Date for next meeting – 22 January 2019