Minutes and agendas
The Plymouth Cycling Campaign (PCyC) meetings are open to all
- Anyone who would like to get involved in our campaigns to improve cycling in Plymouth and to help raise the profile of sustainable transport is very welcome to attend these meetings. We need all the help we can get! Or just come along to find out what we’re up to – you’ll be very welcome whatever type of cyclist you are, or even if you don’t cycle but would like to! And any comments you may have will be welcome too.
Date of next open meeting Tuesday May 15th 2018 7 pm VENUE room 404 Babbage Building Uni Campus – map
AGENDA MAY 15TH 2018
This meeting will focus on the future direction of the Plymouth Cycling Campaign (PCyC) with brief reports on current campaigns and developments as we see them, plus a report from Jim Woffenden, Cycling Officer at Plymouth City Council.
The PCyC was formed in 2010. We believe that better infrastructure is the fundamental requirement in getting more people cycling. With no funds of our own we have concentrated on building links and relationships with the holders of the purse strings e.g. Plymouth City Council and neighbouring councils, Sustrans, Highways England, and various other bodies concerned with cycling infrastructure, sustainable transport and healthy living in and around Plymouth.
- We are official consultees with Plymouth City Council and have been involved with all the recent and proposed highway developments as well as residential and commercial schemes where cycling infrastructure is proposed or considered. Our submissions have been effective to different degrees depending on a variety of factors, e.g. cost, land ownership issues, and political pressures. We claim significant benefits (not perfection!) from our input into:
- The recently completed path from across the old Laira Rail Bridge to Broxton Drive and the plans to continue this towards Elburton and Sherford
- The Derriford improvements
- The Coypool improvements
- The Clearbrook path on NCN 27 The Plym Valley Trail
- Better maintenance of existing paths
- We continue to campaign among other things for:
- Major improvements to the Embankment road “shared path”
- Resurfacing and lighting for the existing route from Efford to Marsh Mills
- The Hooe Lake Bridge
- Better route from North Cross to Central Park and northwards towards Manadon
- A parallel path to the A386 between Roborough and Yelverton
- Construction of path between King George Playing Fields and the existing path near Otter Nurseries, and its extension to Yealmpton
- Improvements to NCN 2 through Plympton and the extension of NCN 2 from Junction Gardens (to the west of the Seagull Bridge over Embankment Road) through to the Tothill Sidings and onward to Exeter Street
- A new integrated route between the City and the Tamar Bridge
- Decent cycling infrastructure in the proposed “Boulevard” between Colin Campbell Court and Millbay
If the PCyC is to continue campaigning on these issues and to play a part in persuading planners and engineers of the value of quality cycle routes and infrastructure we urgently need more volunteers – we are stretched! If you’d like to get involved please come to the meeting and find out what you could do.
Also come along and tell us what you want from the PCyC?:
- More high profile campaigning
- Better engagement with local politicians (councillors and MPs)
- Better engagement with planners and highway engineers
- More rides
- Better engagement with other volunteer and community groups
- Closer ties with local cycling clubs e.g. Yogi, Corinthians, etc
- A drive to recruit more paid up members (currently only around 30) to improve representation and enhance our very limited funds ( current annual membership just £5)
- Greater use of social medias and the internet
- Other ideas welcome
If you think you can help to promote any of these ideas please come along and let us know.
Everybody is welcome. You don’t need to be a member or even a cyclist! As long as you believe as we do that a healthy future means sustainable transport we’d like you to get involved.
Plymouth Cycling Campaign – minutes of the meeting on 6th February 2018
Present – Sue Jennings (Breeze) Chairing, Dave Gibbs, Colin Gillespie, Bill Nicholson, Graham Wilson, Erica Travies (Access Plymouth), Simon Trevan, Jim Woffenden (PCC), Nick Moore, Clare Smith, John Abraham
Apologies – Stuart Mee, Hayley Harvey, Mike Kelly
Minutes of last meeting:
Yelverton – Dousland Route SJ made a point that the route link does in fact lead back onto the lane.
Sustrans – no news from Highways England – had hoped for the report last week, but not heard from them
Charles Cross Roundabout proposals – GW official response. They don’t agree with cycle lanes
Report from Sustainable Transport Conference
Access Plymouth – ET explained that ‘Access Bike’ is now up and running. Have two trikes and a bike to hire from Mayflower East Car park premises for initial free period. Assessment and familiarisation sessions provided, need to book. Two sessions delivered. Being supported by PSSP for training, and Bike Space for maintenance. Official launch being planned later in Spring with partners. JW explained it is being funded through Plymotion for 3 years, then aims to be sustainable. Riding a trike can mean people don’t look disabled in the way that those on scooters, or in a wheelchair do. GW said to let the PCyC group know when the launch day will be and they will promote it
Transport Conference – 70 -80 attendees. 4 Speakers as detailed in previous minutes:
Neil Greig, Rosie Starr, Gary Streeter, Paola Spivach.
No press attended. Try Rachel Dodd. Sarah Wallington
JW – Gave congratulations. ‘Thought provoking’. SJ – ‘Many had made positive comments’
Bristol to Bath path is the first in the country to be widened due to high volume of cycle traffic (no room for walkers)
~ one person stated his view that Plymouth presents with 2 choices – 3 lanes of traffic or narrow pavements at 3-4mph. Great risk, not permeable.
ST echoes that cycling in Plymouth not good. Cited Norwich as a good example.
JW asked if the group could support the Sustrans’ bid from Highways England for route from Ivybridge to Plymouth City Centre.
HE bid: JW – only draft report so far. Mowhay Road footbridge over A38. HE working on that. Will connect to improvements made in 2015 St Budeaux bypass (on to Crownhill).
GW No connection to cycle route 2 into City Centre. Risk assessment must be done from cyclists viewpoint – not just from accident statistics. JW cited improvements in London. Plymouth is making progress. Cycling has increased by 50 % in 6 years. Left with legacy from the 1950’s/1960’s. Funding to improve route to Hoe via Armada Way
~ one person said that students need to be able to access many areas of Plymouth. They are not part of the car community. They could use their vote, we could tap into that.
Report from Infrastructure Group (JA)
JA outlined the role of the Infrastructure sub-group in monitoring development proposals and planning applications and commenting on traffic regulation orders (TROs), Recent consultations included Central Park development, Home Park/Argyle application which included a hotel, shops and an ice rink, Mannamead Rd junctions improvements, Barbican – Laira Route and Neptune Park waling and cycling routes.
JA reported on the meeting he and Stuart Mee had with planners on 31/10/17 to discuss the Millbay development, Colin Campbell Ct and the proposed boulevard.
They were advised that the boulevard, as envisioned in the Mackie plan would not happen. JA and SM asked for a commitment to traffic –free cycle lanes.
JA also sits on the Plymouth Local Access Forum which is independent of PCC, but a statutory PCC consultee.
JA invited more members to join the Infrastructure Group. Nick Moore and Erica Travies agreed to giving it as trial period.
Colin Woodman had written to JA in effect resigning from PCyC. JA said that Colin had been one of the main promoters of cycling in Plymouth for 20-30 years as the CTC ‘Right to Ride’ officer and on various Forums and committees.
ACTION: Write a thank you to Colin from the group
Hooe Lake Bridge (JA)
JA reported that the Hooe Lake bridge reinstatement had been discussed at the Plymouth LAF previously. He is giving a presentation at the next meeting to argue that with new residential developments and increased traffic strengthen the for it’s
Repair or replacement.
NCN2/The Embankment (GW) Segregated route on other side of the railway. 4m cycle only lane and separate footway – proposal to Sustrans to include in HE bid. Estuary owned by the Duchy of Cornwall. Raised platform – no need for high retaining walls. Sustrans to feed back on report to PCyC. Mentioned Exeter to Exmouth Estuary trail, DCC funded -liked by Regional Director
Contraflow Cycling provision (CS) Focus more on traffic calming measures, contraflows and 20mph zones. N and E corridors, ignoring C.Centre and those on different routes.
CS – Belgium – accepted norm for cyclists to travel both directions on 1 way streets.
Around the room it was felt that cyclists will travel against one way and on the pavement and through red lights if provision is not made for them. JW said that creating contraflow requires Designand safety audit, Traffic regulation order plus signage Need a big number of streets, say 50 or 60 streets in Plymouth and submit to PCC as being more cost effective than just a few. Prioritise streets including no-entries and banned movements. ET asked if there was a list of all one way streets to look at. Present our list to JW.
JA – All cycle routes need direction arrows. Some shared paths have symbols which are wearing out. JW – Madeiera Road contraflow – positive step forward.
Volunteer Hours – (GW/SJ) SJ submitted report/update February 2018. Breeze rides – led rides for women, trained by British Cycling). 9 Weekly led rides. ET impressed, especially during winter. Volunteer hours = 2,500 hours per year given to PCC.
2 Breeze ride leaders now MTB leaders for Ride Social. Different rides for families. Hope to do mixed rides. Eg. Cycling for Breast Cancer. All can be booked from same website. British Cycling provide leader training, membership covers the insurance.
GW-Sustrans have similar training, along the lines of the construction industry with emphasis on safety.
JW – Very grateful, works well with PCC programmes.
SJ – Leisure, learning new routes including commutes, parks. Led rides encourage people to try road routes that they wouldn’t otherwise do.
GW – Sustrans have 11 rides planned from March-June. S.Hams. 10-50 mile rides. N.Abbot furthest. Want to create a cycle route to Kingsbridge.
Will also be on Let’s Ride and Active Devon websites.
Details of websites are on banners on the PlymTrail. Branded clothing for leaders.
Motorists have AA/RAC –associations paid to help motorists. Cyclist groups are all voluntary. Something for PCC to consider..
Discussed Oslo – reduce the no. of cars in the city centre; and Helsinki MAAS. Travel pass that includes use of car (sharing) as a small part of travel options. More efficient travel.
WN Give cyclists space-training motorists – led to Driving instructors code to consider cyclists.
Target Travel (WN) have been mentioned as being aggressive towards cyclists. Suggest write a letter to TT to meet with PCBus who have good training. SM and WN to compose the letter.
Crowdfunding bid for BMX track under Marsh Mills.
Financial: (WN) £317.05 in the kitty.
24 paid up members at £5 membership
2 new members
Subscriptions paid on the night
Grey t-shirts £15: 13 sold, 7 left
Some yellow t-shirts left (new but old stock) foc. Suggest sell at a PCyC event/ride. (tried before)
Bike Life Funding (GW) Sustrans biggest asset. Cited Copenhagen.
Collaboration with 7 cities. Inviting 3 more cities to apply. Gary Streeter has written a letter.
Funded from Freshfield foundation. Local Authority fund £15,000 for 4 years – foundation fund the rest. April 2018 – 2022. ‘Make to Move’ strategy (LEP?*)
Greater Manchester – Chris Boardman – wants £1.5 billion to transform city. Edinburgh another example.
Applications in by February 28th 2018. Do we approach PCC and invite them to support a bid application?
MOTION. Sustrans will do the bulk of the work. Plymouth City facilitates it. Ask Gary Streeter who the letter went to. GW/SJ to write a letter
Speaker at next meeting: Discussed and agreed to invite the police. Gary Williams suggested (JW). Speak for 20-30 minutes with the meeting afterwards.
DONM 15th May 2018